The following is from an online conversation that I had with an Atheist on Youtube.com. These are the comments that were under this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gY6Dn0_hBOY
MartyJSwizzle = Christian
viridismonasteriense = Atheist
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@viridismonasteriense - Is the Lord a God of Peace (Romans 15:33) or War (Exodus 15:3)? He is both and plenty more. These 2 characteristic are only 2 of God’s many appellations to help describe explain his nature. In Deut 33:27 He is God of the Beginning, God of Justice: (Isaiah 30:18), God of Forgiveness: (Neh. 9:17), God of Heights: (Micah 6:6), God Of The Heavens: (Psalm 136:26), God Of Knowledge: (1 Samuel 2:3), God Of Truth: (Psalm 31:6), and there are hundreds more. There is no contradiction. - MartyJSwizzle
@MartyJSwizzle You can't be a pacifist and support war. You can't be a vegeterian and eat meat. You can't be a God of War and be a God of Peace. You can't be a murderer and an innocent. You can't be perfect and imperfect. You can't be invisible and pink at the same time. - viridismonasteriense
@viridismonasteriense There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: a time to be born and a time to die, a time to plant and a time to uproot, a time to kill and a time to heal, a time to tear down and a time to build, a time to weep and a time to laugh, a time to mourn and a time to dance, a time to scatter stones and a time to gather them, a time to embrace and a time to refrain from embracing, a time to search and a time to give up, a time to keep and a time to throw away, a time to tear and a time to mend, a time to be silent and a time to speak, a time to love and a time to hate, a time for war and a time for peace. - @MartyJSwizzle
@MartyJSwizzle "No contradiction here. "
You failed to mention Mark 16:8 Trembling and bewildered, the women went out and fled from the tomb. They said nothing to anyone, because they were afraid.
Compare that to:
Matthew 28:8 So the women hurried away from the tomb, afraid yet filled with joy, and ran to tell his disciples.
So who did they tell?
Both Gospels can't be right. One of them must be wrong. And this is by far not the only example of where the Gospels directly contradict. - viridismonasteriense
@viridismonasteriense - You failed to mention the 2nd half of Mark 16:8 - “The women fled from the tomb, trembling and bewildered, and they said nothing to anyone because they were too frightened. Then they briefly reported all this to Peter and his companions. Afterward Jesus himself sent them out from east to west with the sacred and unfailing message of salvation that gives eternal life. Amen (NLT).” - MartyJSwizzle
@MartyJSwizzle "There were at least 3 angels present at the tomb."
If I have two books in my hands would you say there were three? Or one? You'd think the woman who saw the angels could count. Oh, hang on. They couldn't. They could barely write. They barely had a legal standing. So the entire foundation of Christianity is the word of a few hysterical illiterate emotionally unstable women from the Iron Age?
Crafting a narrative doesn't explain away the flaws of the Bible. - viridismonasteriense
@MartyJSwizzle "Again, just because a person is not mentioned in one version does not mean that they weren’t there."
But that doesn't mean they WERE there.
"they will not always be exact."
Then you admit it's not inerrant. It's made by humans and therefore flawed. You cannot trust it. Is this the best your God could do? The most important message of all and he sucks at basic communication? That's not befitting a 'perfect' God, nor an 'omnipotent' one. More a nonexistent one. - viridismonasteriense
@viridismonasteriense - No, that doesn't mean they WERE there. However, you can’t assume they WEREN’T there either. Since we really don’t know whether all or some of the women were there or not, we cannot safely assume without a shadow of doubt that there is a contradiction without knowing all the facts involved. Therefore, there is no contradiction. Do you even know what a contradiction is? I don’t think so. You keep taking things out of context & claiming it is a contradiction. That’s either deception or ignorance. - @MartyJSwizzle
@viridismonasteriense - No, I don’t admit that the gospels are inerrant. What I mean is that since the gospels were written by 4 different people at 4 different times with 4 different sources, there are 4 versions of the same story but not every single, little, insignificant & exact detail is going to be the same in every version. Yes, all four gospels were inspired by God, written through men, who witnessed these events with their own eyes & from their own individual perspectives under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. Thus, human intervention has a part in its variances. - @MartyJSwizzle
@viridismonasteriense - The most important message of all and he sucks at basic communication? No, God doesn’t have a problem communicating His story. He had 4 versions of the same story written for you and you still didn’t get it!
The problem is that you do not have the ears to hear and the eyes to see. In other words, you do not understand and you are not spiritually prepared to hear these truths at this time. Therefore, this will be my last posting to you.
I would like to thank you for strengthening and confirming my faith & trust in Christ and His Word. Have a great day. - @MartyJSwizzle
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